Testimony of Dr. Graham and Mr. Ivey, December 19, 1936
Title
Testimony of Dr. Graham and Mr. Ivey, December 19, 1936
Description
The Athletic Council questions Mr. Ivey, manager of the NC State student supply store. Dr. Graham and others ask Ivey about the moral tone on campus and among the football team.
Creator
North Carolina State Faculty Council
Source
Testimony of Dr. Graham and Mr. Ivey, December 19, 1936, volume 3, pg. 29-33, North Carolina State University, Committees, Council on Athletics Records, UA 022.001, Special Collections Research Center, North Carolina State University Libraries, Raleigh.
Date
1936-12-19
Type
document
Identifier
f047
Text
By Dr. Graham:
I will try to point it. I will ask you in two divisions. I think it is well for us to ask that question in all colleges, for that matter. Do the entire college athletics contribute to the building of character and a high moral tone? That is one. That is the general situation. Is the football situation higher or lower than the general athletic situation?
By Mr. Ivey:
I will answer no to your first and it is not to your second.
By Dr. Graham:
The football is not higher?
By Mr. Ivey:
No, sir.
By Dr. Graham:
Would you say it is lower?
(31)
By Mr. Ivey:
I would, yes, sir.
By Dr. Graham:
That is your inside observation?
By Mr. Ivey:
Yes, sir.
By Professor Fisher:
Would you consider that the morals of the football men are worse than the morals existing in the fraternity houses?
By Mr. Ivey:
Well, I think I know less about what goes on in the fraternity houses than the football.
By Dean Nelson:
Would you consider the morals of the football men worse than the same number of men picked out from the student body?
By Mr. Ivey:
Let me make this observation. I was talking to Capt. Cara the night after the dismissal of three men from the team and Cara said there was one situation that would have to be cleared up here in order to get a better moral situation on the campus among the football players and that was putting them all together in one dormitory section.
By Dr. Graham:
He didn’t think that was a good thing?
By Mr. Ivey:
He did not.
By Dr. Graham:
Do you?
(32)
By Mr. Ivey:
I do not.
By Dr. Graham:
Dean Harrelson doesn’t think that is a good thing.
By Mr. Ivey:
It is not for the players and the students.
By Dean Nelson:
I know a number of the football players and they are high class men. There is no doubt about that.
By Mr. Ivey:
Some of them are my good friends.
By Dean Brown:
Is their moral tone above or below the average moral tone of the school body?
By Mr. Ivey:
That is hard to judge. A football player is more or less of a leader, the boys look up to him. He is pointed out more than any other student and you naturally hear more about football players than you would any average student and naturally the focus of the college community is on the football players and athletes in general as well as student leaders.
(33)
By Dr. Graham:
That would prepare the third question. Is the football coaching staff of a higher or lower tone or moral influence than the general athletic leadership?
By Mr. Ivey:
The coaching staff?
By Dr. Graham:
Yes, sir. Is it higher or lower?
By Mr. Ivey:
I should say it is possibly under the average.
I will try to point it. I will ask you in two divisions. I think it is well for us to ask that question in all colleges, for that matter. Do the entire college athletics contribute to the building of character and a high moral tone? That is one. That is the general situation. Is the football situation higher or lower than the general athletic situation?
By Mr. Ivey:
I will answer no to your first and it is not to your second.
By Dr. Graham:
The football is not higher?
By Mr. Ivey:
No, sir.
By Dr. Graham:
Would you say it is lower?
(31)
By Mr. Ivey:
I would, yes, sir.
By Dr. Graham:
That is your inside observation?
By Mr. Ivey:
Yes, sir.
By Professor Fisher:
Would you consider that the morals of the football men are worse than the morals existing in the fraternity houses?
By Mr. Ivey:
Well, I think I know less about what goes on in the fraternity houses than the football.
By Dean Nelson:
Would you consider the morals of the football men worse than the same number of men picked out from the student body?
By Mr. Ivey:
Let me make this observation. I was talking to Capt. Cara the night after the dismissal of three men from the team and Cara said there was one situation that would have to be cleared up here in order to get a better moral situation on the campus among the football players and that was putting them all together in one dormitory section.
By Dr. Graham:
He didn’t think that was a good thing?
By Mr. Ivey:
He did not.
By Dr. Graham:
Do you?
(32)
By Mr. Ivey:
I do not.
By Dr. Graham:
Dean Harrelson doesn’t think that is a good thing.
By Mr. Ivey:
It is not for the players and the students.
By Dean Nelson:
I know a number of the football players and they are high class men. There is no doubt about that.
By Mr. Ivey:
Some of them are my good friends.
By Dean Brown:
Is their moral tone above or below the average moral tone of the school body?
By Mr. Ivey:
That is hard to judge. A football player is more or less of a leader, the boys look up to him. He is pointed out more than any other student and you naturally hear more about football players than you would any average student and naturally the focus of the college community is on the football players and athletes in general as well as student leaders.
(33)
By Dr. Graham:
That would prepare the third question. Is the football coaching staff of a higher or lower tone or moral influence than the general athletic leadership?
By Mr. Ivey:
The coaching staff?
By Dr. Graham:
Yes, sir. Is it higher or lower?
By Mr. Ivey:
I should say it is possibly under the average.
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North Carolina State Faculty Council, “Testimony of Dr. Graham and Mr. Ivey, December 19, 1936,” The State of History, accessed April 19, 2024, https://soh.omeka.chass.ncsu.edu/items/show/229.